• Um...I don't want any sponsors. When I tried to do a pledge (as opposed to a one-time powerchat donation or whatever) I was directed to a login page. So I set up an account thinking that I probably needed a wallet from which to supply BTC or something. Seems that an account at bitbacker.io is only for getting money as opposed to contributing it?!? I don't care to continue the setup process by supplying a BTC addy because I don't want anyone sending me anything. This because I don't do anything (unlike the many outstanding alt-media producers) and I don't need money. Better documentation and less confusing workflow please!

  • bitbacker Hi! We need you to have an account if you want to pledge to someone as we need to send you email reminders! There is no need to add a BTC addy if you don't want to, all we needed was your email. Sorry for any confusion! 2 months, 1 week ago
    tvbbackio That make sense. Note that I have no experience with the likes of Patreon both because they don't do crypto (or I suspect they don't do it and/or do it right) and because I figured they would not walk the walk when they were told to drop specific users. Thus, I don't know how this stuff works if you are emulating them. What a 'pledge' would mean to me is that I decide to give someone a, say, 0.0014 BTC/mo pledge for a year. I do the business on bitbacker one time. I pay once and forget ab 2 months, 1 week ago
    tvbbackio out it. Maybe I have the ability to back out early if they piss me off or I run out of top ramen. Maybe not. Depends on your policies and coding budget. 2 months, 1 week ago
    japananon My understanding of bitbacker is that it's essentially a subscription service, allowing you to set and forget pledges and be reminded when its time to send more. Doing it anon is still possible, but then you need to keep track of everything yourself. 2 months, 1 week ago
    sebastiaan As you can't do recurring payments with bitcoin you need to send money each month yourself. With credit cards it's possible to authorise someone to deduct money each month. That's why Patreon can do a setup once and forget about it flow and Bitbacker will need to send you reminders that you'll need to pay. 2 months, 1 week ago
    tvbbackio Valuable discussion here. Let's continue it. I want to simplify my life and not have a million little tasks to do every month. It's certainly a technological possibility that crypto can make these kinds of transactions a reality, and I'm looking forward to a user-friendly platform which fosters this. At the same time, I fully recognize the technical, legal, and ethical challenges that a dedicated and proficient designer would face in bringing such a platform into existence. 2 months, 1 week ago
    japananon The issues with Patreon (and upstream financial service providers) unilaterally participating in the deplatforming of speech creates both an incentive and a market for systems and platforms built around bottom-up libertarian principles. I fear the tyrant and the censor as much as the criminal. Possibly moreso. 2 months, 1 week ago
    sebastiaan Well agreed, what Patreon, Paypal and Mastercard are doing is preventing people to have discussions about difficult topics and voice opinions that go against the grain. At the moment Sillicon Valley is becoming increasingly political correct and excessive action is taken under pressure of just a few percent of the people. The amplifying effect of social media is scary and it shows some companies just want to avoid any controversy at all like Mastercard. 2 months, 1 week ago
    sebastiaan It's up to "us" to develop platforms that make it easy to use crypto currency. Just made my first pledge and I'm new to Bitcoin. It would have made it a lot easier for me if somehow I could be forwarded to an exchange or other platform to buy the right amount of Bitcoin and then send that off to make the pledge. Maybe a first step could be to integrate the pledge reminder with one click payments from a Bitcoin wallet. 2 months, 1 week ago
    japananon I suppose BitBacker was built from the first assumption that users are already familiar with crypto. Unfortunately, directing new users to an exchange could be a risky thing to do...appearing to favor any given exchange makes a statement, intended or not. 2 months, 1 week ago
    japananon For example, Coincheck has recently bowed to much the same pressure that Patreon and PayPal did, kicking Gab's Andrew Torba off both professionally and personally. I think a disclaimer that the user is responsible for acquiring their own currency and maintaining their own wallet is a good idea, though. 2 months, 1 week ago
    tvbbackio To someone who's been in the crypto-currency space for a while, it means something when platform who doesn't want anything to do with handling your money. Hopefully this site ends up brokering smart-contracts or whatever to organize and ease the overhead of crypto-centric sponsorships. 2 months, 1 week ago